Reggae artists that need to be merged

Here's a few reggae artist names that need to be merged under two individual PANs:

R Mowatt = Rudie Mowatt

Does everyone agree?

Yes for Johnny Slaughter, rest ANV's
Yes for Rudie Mowatt, rest ANV's

Agree with the merges, I'll leave up to s with more confidence with reggae genre to choose the correct PAN.

It seems to me this is the most practical,
+1

Thank you very much Don_Julian, I'll get to making the changes asap.

Danny Brownie
if they are really the same artist, I don't get why there are two PAN..?
we should keep the one with the correct spelling of his last name, and merge both with ANVs..

also while recently editing all Firehouse 12" to correct country, I saw:

Tony "Asha" Brissett
IMO we should merge both to new (complete) PAN: Tony "Asher" Brissett (real name Anthony Brissett) & the rest in ANVs
we keep Alias Firehouse releases.

seems to be the best way to go..any thoughts ?

I never did figure out which is the correct spelling of Danny Brown(i)e but it looks like Haldane Browne is his real name, so maybe Browne as PAN and Brownie ANV?

Tony "Asher" Brissett PAN +1.
I'd make Asher (5) an ANV thereof.

Peace,
DJ

Don_Julian
I'd make King Asher PAN and Asher (5) an ANV thereof.

IMO we should keep them separated,
because King Asher is used to differentiate his work on King Tubby's productions
it goes under RSG §2.5.3 "ANVs should not be used if the artist uses the name to differentiate their work"

Fair enough.

I will wait few more approval before to create new PAN Tony "Asher" Brissett

(EDIT: Esso Jackson DONE)

computerise
which is the PAN to keep :

my vote is for R. Zee Jackson.

Anyone here able to distinguish one Leroy Brown (8)? http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/artist/449634-Carlton-Patterson?query=Leroy%20Brown

Victor Downes

Several web links point to Jazzbo Victor Downes being the correct contender for PAN.

Danny Brownie

still need to be resolved.

I've added real name Haldane Wayne Browne to both profiles (there is also the Alias Haldane Browne) but we ought to agree to keep Danny Browne and have the ANVs under Danny Brownie moved to Browne.

Agree with all proposed.

Best PAN will be Victor "Jazzbo" Downes because Jazzbo is his nickname,
But I already see people adding Jazzbo as an Alias and mix it with Prince Jazzbo...so to avoid more confusion

Tarantxon
Jazzbo Victor Downes being the correct contender for PAN

+1

Danny Browne +1
but there are 548 credits and 149 Appearance to move from Danny Brownie so it will take a little time...
EDIT: I will do the releases on the label Redman

Edit: Noel Browne PAN fixed

Edit: about Leroy Brown, sorry I can't help, but you should ask in the group Roots, Rock Reggae

computerise
Danny Browne +1
but there are 548 credits and 149 Appearance to move from Danny Brownie so it will take a little time...

is it really the same ? on the releases I have, he's credited as bassist, could he really be the same than singer and producer ?

Tarantxon
Jazzbo Victor Downes
Jazzbo Victor Downe
Victor Downes

Several web links point to Jazzbo Victor Downes being the correct contender for PAN.

saw this problem recently: http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/forum/thread/409733

TwinPowerForce
on the releases I have, he's credited as bassist, could he really be the same than singer and producer ?

which release ?

TwinPowerForce
is it really the same ?

yes, obviously, with lot of typos Brownie, Browne...same as for his brother Clevie Browne

computerise
which release ?

After re-checking, he's not only bass on the releases I have:
Various - The Revenge Of King Jammy's Super Power Allstars Volume 3 (just credited as musician)
on Nuttea - Retour Aux Sources: just piano

Yes, definitively the same Artist... look at Red Rose For Gregory, he played with his brothers:
Bass: Dalton Brownie
they formed The Music Works Crew (with Robbie Lyn on Synths & Dean Fraser on Sax)

I guess he started playing "real" bass and guitar, but with the Digital / Computerized revolution he also played and programmed all kinds of synthesizer / keyboards (so piano, drums, bass) and produced a lot of Dancehall Reggae music in the 80s & 90s like his brothers Robert Brownie)...all involved in the Music, n°1 Jamaican biz.. They are a family of "studio freaks", maybe one of the most productive from JA.

For a moment to stop at Glen Browne.
Probably lot of Glen Browne.

.Glen Brown - ?
Glen Brown & Friends - ?

ReggaeRobi
Probably lot of Glen Brown releases belong to Glen Browne.

Be carefull with this...because I don't think so. I took a quick look at Glen Brown releases, and all seems correct.

Glen Brown is a major producer since the 70s, he produced lots of tunes, and some riddims which are still recut nowadays...he was by far more prolific in Reggae Music than Glen Browne, in every continent (JA, US, UK)

If any doubt about a release, better to post a link and ask, before to make some wrong move
(c.f your confusion last year about Glenn Lewis...some releases are still misedited if I well..)

Glen Brown (Fire House Crew) > not sure about this credit, a picture could help
I would guess it's written (Glen Brown, Fire House Crew) under B side title
the release is based on a recent cut of Youthman / Green Bay Killing, a Firehouse Crew

You're right, but...
It does not hurt to check ANV Glen Browne, Glen Brownie and similar releases.
Especially need to check instrument players credits
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/artist/25869-Glen-Brown?filter_anv=0&subtype=Instruments-Performance&type=Credits
Now here 35 entries. Probably bigger part of releases belong to Glen Browne.

I think releases
Glen Brown & Friends
better split to separate artists:
Glen Brown &
Various ANV Friends
like on release
Glen Brown & Friends* - Rhythm Master Volume One

sorry, in fact you're right about Glen Browne miscredits to Glen Brown, I see some while doing the mass edit to PAN Danny Browne, like for example this release were all the Browne family are involved (look at the backing vocals...lol)

so need to keep our eyes open..

ReggaeRobi
better split to separate artists:
Glen Brown &
Various ANV Friends

It won't be 'correct' (according to the current guideline, see my proposition at http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/forum/thread/396040 )

For the Glen Browne/Glen Brown, can someone please clarify the differences between the two in artists' profiles ("Do not confuse with the other which is a ?, active in ?...") (I always thought there was only one)

!!! there is an artist named Danny Brownie with vocals involved in an electro-italo release Bang
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/artist/192906-Danny-Brownie?query=bang

will remove invalid and edit his profile once the mass edit is cleared

Edit: 1 more vote is needed in 3 merge pending of Danny Brownie Appearances

TwinPowerForce
It won't be 'correct' (according to the current guideline

Not sure if there's a mention of 'translating' '& Friends' into '& Various' [no ANV], after reading http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/forum/thread/396040#3746378 and checking the guideline, seems it would be ok to use Glen Brown & Various as Main Artist and maybe mention in Notes the release is credited to 'Glen Brown & Friends'.

ReggaeRobi
Probably lot of Glen Brown releases belong to Glen Browne.

I've had the pleasure to have met Glen [Glenmore Lloyd] Brown as he came by my shop in London a couple of times and can confirm the Pantomine and South East Music label releases are his. After many collaborations as vocalist in the '60s, there's a wealth of roots and dub productions in the '70s (Shanachie and Greensleeves compiled many of these and Trojan some of the earlier cuts) working with countless artists including the Roots Radics. I agree his output is huge but also would be suspicious of many of the credits that credit Browne, G. A. Browne, G. Brownnie, Glen Brownie, Glenn Borwne, Glenn Browne, Glenn Brownie and Glenn Brownnie as they probably belong to Glen Browne.

Jahrise, I see You change/corrected Glen Browne (and Danny Browne) from step 7 to step 8
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/history?release=2077867&rev=8
Simply facts. Glen Browne have long and successful career, and impossible have thus little discography like now credited.
Interesting
Pierpoljak - Kingston Karma credited to Glen Brown

yes, easy guess to say that if "Glen Brown(i)(e)" is credited on a release involving 2 of his family , it's certainly Glen Browne and we could credit him without doubt.

now I see many credits which I think may belongs to Glen Browne...what a mess...
many Vocals & Backing Vocals, some credits related with french singers...
also did Glen Brown played Bass or Guitar ?? this info could help...

Maybe we should start a new topic " Glen Brown or Glen Browne "
to discuss about the releases which needs to be edited (and link this new topic to both profiles to help s for future submissions)..

computerise
many Vocals & Backing Vocals, some credits related with french singers...

don't know the whole story about the Glen Brown/Glen Browne, but for french artists, most of them recorded in Jamaica or with jamaican musicians because of Pierpoljak - Je Fais C'Que J' Veux (Lord Kossity and Pierpoljak all came from the late 80's french raggamuffin scene alongside Raggasonic, Frenchie, Nuttea, Daddy Yod, ...)

Danny Brownie fixed yesterday, thanks everyone !

more duplicates: DJ Cinderella
my vote go to DJ Cinderella

Somebody recognize this piano player Brownie (The Melodians - Sweet Sensation?

Unfortunately need check famous producer Tony Robinson releases.
Cca. 15-20% releases belong to Aswad member Tony Robinson (4) (Tony Gad).
Mostly instruments players and songwriters credits.

In a meantime Glen Browne releases successful separated.
Bless

Clarence Ware seems like same artist.

Clarence Wears +1
dont forget to mark the other profiles as invalid

Please Jahrise, You do it. Little strange but I don't know how it's work. And don't want make mistake. For example I don't know how need add someone releases to merge. I only love arrange releases and find hard finded artists/musicians/songwriters.
Other:
DJ Cinderella is woman?

And what about Tony Robinson (4)?
Have permission to start corrected releases which belong to Tony Robinson (4)?

you have the vote right on discogs, isn't ? (you must have it to invalid profile)
clic "edit artist", on top of the "Real Name" there is "This artist is invalid and should not be used"
when you clic the box, "Real Name" changes to "Correct Artist Name" where you enter the artist PAN
preview & submit, it's easy, I do it now for Clarence Weirs

yes Cinderella is a woman, a dancehall DJ / rapper / MC (hence DJ Cinderella & Cinderella MC profiles..)

ReggaeRobi
start correcting releases which belong to Tony Robinson (4)

+1

computerise
DJ Cinderella

+1

computerise
to invalidate profile

Yes, you got it.
And always check first and remove any linked Groups or [in the case of labels] companies; or if you're editing a Group; similarly if there is a profile you must copy it to the new PAN or Label profile.
Nice work.

Clarence Wears releases completed and add profile image. Probably he have more releases like work with Monty Alexander.
Other.
Please help coggers about Tony Robinson (4), but please help for eventually others. Thank You in advance.

Done
I have a question.
Does good idea Tony's All Stars.
I ask this because Tony Robinson / Prince Tony not a musician/instrument player and not group member in a classical sense.

ReggaeRobi
Prince Tony's All Stars Alias Tony's All Stars.

I think one ought to be made ANV of the other and the chosen Group name added to the Groups Tony Robinson belongs to.

O la la...
In this moment here one more variation Tony All Stars.
Please Tarantxon, put everything on right place.
BTW Tony Robinson 'lost' 36 entries. From 190 to 154.

Toney & The Sweet Bunch

ReggaeRobi
Now here is rainin'...
About your Richard Ace - If I Can't Have You.
What is exactly that?
I find version like Yvon Elliman / Yvonne Elliman credited like songwriter
http://www.reggaecollector.com/en/detail/index.php?number=44824
http://www.reggaecollector.com/en/detail/index.php?number=58611
Other is credited to Bee Jees / Richard Ace / Toney All Stars - If I Can't Have You / I Must Have You
.
And What with
Toney & The Sweet Bunch

It's raining in London too, Robi, I know.

Surely you must know "If I Can't Have You" from the soundtrack of 'Saturday Night Fever', written by the Bee Gees Yvonne Elliman, it was a huge disco hit. no? Not my favourite either but the Richard Ace single is great, don't know where my copy is now but I had it around just a few years ago...

RE: Tony's All Stars, I am having a careful look before choosing the PAN as there may be other Tonys with Stars that are different to this Group, just to be sure. It looks like Aliases have been created instead of using ANVs, probably best to fix that and keep Tony's All Stars, what do you think??

1)
In this moment no have other Richard Ace - If I Can't Have You on follow form:
http://www.reggaecollector.com/en/detail/index.php?number=44824
http://www.reggaecollector.com/en/detail/index.php?number=58611

2)
Yes, I check 'Tony' and 'All Stars'/'Allstars', find few others (for example Tony Scott All-Stars), but exactly this five from our list are behind Tony Robinson / Prince Tony.
I suggest Prince Tony's All Stars for only PAN, and rest four (with eventually currently own ANV's) to ANV's.
I think this solution is the best because contain 'Prince Tony'.
Eventually on Prince Tony's All Stars profile listed all variations which we know in this moment.

3)
Little still skeptic to add Tony Robinson / Prince Tony like group member to Toney & The Sweet Bunch

4) Other - new theme
I suggest artist Donovan (2)

ReggaeRobi
I suggest to change Richard Ace - If I Can't Have You

done, thanks - now it needs merging with the duplicate.

ReggaeRobi
I suggest Prince Tony's All Stars for only PAN

+1
OK to add the groups to Tony Robinson as soon as the others are invalidated, also approve of PAN for Donovan Francis.

Oops... we have two Prince Tony... he-he-he...
Little aside...
Please help about arrange Donovan Francis
In the first instance I arrange release Donovan* - Banzani-! for bass guitar player Glen Brown Vs. Glen Browne reason.
Lot of work on rest (8/9) releases.
MR: Donovan* - Banzani-!
Better not only change main artist, better completed other credits.
On rest eight releases so many artists missing, and Dean Fraser is credited like trumpeter (David Madden missing too).

Done Donovan Francis releases.
.
New theme:
We can say L. Wint same artist?

ReggaeRobi
We can say Leon Wint and L. Wint same artist?

I would have thought so, but I can't find anything online that confirms it.

ReggaeRobi
Can we say Leon Wint and L. Wint are the same artist?

Who knows? I looked out there too but couldn't find anything unequivocal, sorry. Productions are a tie between Joe Gibbs and Harry Mudie with no evident cross-relation on the name.

D. Selassie McLaren same artist?
.
Other:
Am I right, or I'm in wrong about:
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/history?release=656818#latest

ReggaeRobi
Am I right, or I'm in wrong about:
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/history?release=656818#latest

It does say album on the rear sleeve ("This album is part of the Reggae Greats series...") so I don't see a problem with the album tag.

OK, many thanks.

Ranking Toyan need merging?
PAN Toyan?

disruptive-influence
PAN Toyan?

+1

Duplicate - ignore.

disruptive-influence
PAN Toyan

+1

ReggaeRobi
Anthony Selassie Alias Dale McLaren and D. Selassie McLaren same artist?

I haven't found any definitive evidence of the Alias online but both names keep appearing together like they would be, so there is no evidence of the contrary.
Indeed, I would have expected a comma on Beres Hammond & Marcia Griffiths - Should I Sing clinches it.
Yes to the move of the D. Selassie McLaren ANVs to the appropriate PAN.

D. Selassie McLaren ANV D. "Selassie" McLaren

Not sure I get the question but the move is OK,
they should both be ANVs of Dale McLaren.

Even 'Ranking Toyan' nice/lovable, my vote goes to Toyan.
Good chance for all three main variations:
-Toyan
-Ranking Toyan
-Papa Toyan
So, Toyan (like only alias)
+1
Only I'm not sure about one credit
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/artist/166289-Toyan?filter_anv=1&anv=Michael+%22Toyan%22+Thomas

ReggaeRobi
I'm not sure about one credit

Nightmare: Michael "Toyan" Thomas must be another Toyan, I cannot find a suitable Michael Thomas nor Mike Thomas to match though.

+1 for all variations of Toyan to be merged. PAN Toyan is OK by me. I don't think there was any artistic purpose for any of those variations. He used to call himself Toyan, Papa Toyan and Ranking Toyan throughout his career and often all those three variations on a live gig or a record (DJ's used to refer to themselves quite often!).
Michael "Toyan" Thomas is probably not Ranking/Papa Toyan at all.

And that credit here http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/Anthony-Johnson-Reggae-Feeling/release/1616507 should not be considered as Toyan either. It's just a lazy sub with errors and the country is definitely not Canada. It's US/NY release with a jacket printed in Canada.

iral Tibet = iral Tibbett (misspelled irai Tibbett on the profile) = A Tibet = A. Tebet = all the other various names listed under ANV but which are all the same artist.

boris_the_human
iral Tibet

yes, that's why Artist Name Variations are used, there is no problem here.

Engineer "Tootie" Wayne Nicholson
I will merge into "Tootie" Wayne Nicholson

"Tootie" Wayne Nicholson
+1

computerise
"Tootie" Wayne Nicholson

+1

Keyboards player Peter Ashbourne among others have follow ANV's:
Ashbourne Affair, The
Peter Ashbourne Affair, The
On other side we have artist Peter Ashbourne Affair.
I propose to connect with Alias, something similar like The Circles (4), and I don't understand what is exactly reason for connect.
Further exist Peter Ashbourne Group

Peter Ashbourne Affair have Alias [Invalid Artist], and I don't understand what is exactly reason for connect.

Hi Robi, it's because of this:
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/history?artist=Peter+Ashbourne+Affair#latest
Peace,
DJ

edit

Thanks, but for a second The Circles (4) aside.
Main question is Peter Ashbourne Affair person or group?
So, Peter Ashbourne Affair alias or member?

Sorry for going off topic.

Can somebody point me to a reggae group. ..i have a lot of 45s to unload and trying to get connected with a dj or collector.

Not artist, but important label.
Necessary to merge Errol Thompson studios.
Now have:
E. T. Recording Studio
And please look around, maybe find more similar.
Bless

And necessary to add on Errol T Records

Newest case:
Peter Ashbourne Group still in the air.
Also E. T. Recording Studio.

If Peter Ashbourne as member of the group.

Coincidentally Inner Circle's releases, would they also be the same group considering the possible Harry J connection?

Everything indicates that Glen Adams Affair.
Some contributors moreover add like ANV of Peter Ashbourne.
I think Peter Ashbourne Group.

Tarantxon
If Peter Ashbourne Affair is already Alias of Circles, The (4)

This would indicate it's a group, so it couldn't be ANV of Peter Ashbourne. Anyone with more knowledge care to contribute?

I've updated profiles for Errol Thompson, the others need to be invalidated if there are no objections.

Really nice.
Be good if add some info about his record label Errol T Records.

not reggae but ska:
The Steer-Towers
I suggest a new pan, Sneer-Towners, The: according to images of original jamaican releases (if you check images of releases related to Various - Trojan Ska Rarities Box Set it's credited Steer-Towners, The as artists, Sneer-Towners, The for the writing credit

TwinPowerForce
new pan, Sneer-Towners, The

+1

New PAN, Sneer-Towners, The
+1

John McLean - It's Time
except two releases
Colin Lloyd Tucker* - Toybox

We have two reggae artists 'Danny Ray':
Danny Ray (2).
Lot of releases replaced between each other and across.
It is sufficient to look at the Producer credits:
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/artist/204583-Danny-Ray?filter_anv=0&subtype=Production&type=Credits
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/artist/380756-Danny-Ray-2?filter_anv=0&subtype=Production&type=Credits

Strange. For example, same record label, same period, even same songs!
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/artist/204583-Danny-Ray?query=Black%20Jack%20(2)
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/artist/380756-Danny-Ray-2?query=Black%20Jack%20(2)

If you look at the history in the Various - Vin Rock N'Roll has a third Danny Ray.

I've just left a note on the Danny Ray profile, all the rest will need to be migrated to Danny Ray (2).

That's it! Like 'HT' say one year ago
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/history?artist=Danny+Ray#latest
and like 'w_ellis' say 10 months ago
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/history?artist=Danny+Ray+%282%29#latest
Only important to move from zero point.

Who is Leford Edwards?
Possible one more Alias of Jackie Edwards?

Leford Edwards was one of the people working at Jet Star and he seems to have put together quite a lot of their compilations. Just a staff member, he's not any musician as far as i know.

Many-many thanks.

Reggae releases migrated from Danny Ray (2).
Still need find right Danny Ray for follows:
Various - Undercover Cuts 10
and eight managements credits
http://www.discogs.sitioby.com/artist/204583-Danny-Ray?filter_anv=0&subtype=Management&type=Credits

Various - Kette Keyboo - Bongo Herman Meets The RootsMan Vibrations may need to go to Danny Ray (2).

Further Daniel Ray from Nucleus Roots - Heart Of Dub?
And what You think about Danny Raymond?

What You think about Suzanne Couch?

Arrange The Inner Circle* - Rock The Boat release.
Is it acceptable 'A. Morris' is Harry J's Recording Studio)
and 'L. Logan' is Dynamic Sounds Studios)?
Further somebody recognize, or have better solution for follow artists:
Phillip Thompson (3)?
I think The Inner Circle* - Rock The Boat are same.

So I believe Ronald Logan