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Diognes_The_Fox edited over 7 years ago
Continuing from: https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/forum/thread/207034
In order to more effectively manage these requests, I am moving everything to a single thread. Please make future requests for new styles in this thread.
The style request should be in the following format, and include all required fields:
* Genre Name (required). Please include the genre that the style best fits under.
* Style Name (required). The style must be internationally accepted - no regional names for styles if possible. No micro-styles. There are some styles that are too specific or denote a minor style element. Adding these styles at this point would clog up the system. These micro-styles oftem denote only a small change from similar styles, for example, a specific lyrical or musical theme, or simply add an adjective onto an existing style. Some examples of this can be found in the metal and electronic genres.
* Alternative Names
* Genres (required). Genre/s that the style falls under must be included.
* Description (required). The style request must come with a full description of the style. Look at https://reference.discogslabs.com/browse/style for examples. Include a musical description, common instruments and sounds, dates, example artists etc.
* Examples (links to at least 3 releases) (required)
* Associated Styles (this should make links to existing styles). Other styles that relate the the requested style must be listed.
* External citations - The style request must come with at least three trustworthy external citations of it's use.
* Notes
Style requests that do not include the required information or go against the above rules will not be added, and may be deleted from this thread. I reserve the final say in whether a style is added or not.
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Rock:
derpiekfeine.angler
NDW
GenericThrash
Power Violence
Ygr
Depressive Black Metal
Elooooy
Noisecore
TReimer
Dream Pop
TReimer
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If I have missed any, please post a link to the request and I will review.
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Diognes_The_Fox
If I have missed any, please post a link to the request and I will review.
Progressive Bluegrass: https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/forum/thread/206536?page=4#7386939 -
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Diognes_The_Fox
If I have missed any, please post a link to the request and I will review.
Thanks!
How about Atmospheric Black Metal?
My opinion would be that Atmospheric Black Metal is a more needed tag than the added Depressive Black Metal style.
Regardless, thank you for adding Powerviolence and Dream Pop. -
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TReimer
Dream Pop
^^ agree what I know it, Dream Pop. Nowadays mos sucessful group Beach House and countless sucessors -
Alexxx_CE edited over 7 years ago
"Power Violence" should be written in one word "Powerviolence" without space
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Some Brazilian styles that should be analysed as possible new styles on Discogs DB, on Latin / Folk:
Seresta > choro, bolero or slow samba music, with powerful vocal soloist. Popular during 30's to 60's. https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seresta
Samba-Canção > slow and melodic samba, with love, lost and 'heart pain' themes / moods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samba-can%C3%A7%C3%A3o
Baião: the most genuine and popular folk style of Brazilian Northeast region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bai%C3%A3o_(music)
Marcha Carnavalesca: fast 2/4 mix of military marches and samba, sung by crooners accompanied by brass orchestras. Indoor carnival parties soundtrack all over 20th Century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marchinha
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SynfonicMeadow edited over 7 years ago
Christmas.
It's a style that can be mixed with any other. Jazz / Christmas. Rock / Christmas.
But it's not only a theme, we can hear it when a Christmas song is made by an artist, so I think it'S time Discogs adds it
And please Don't tell us the excuse : "It's a theme"... Other styles are more themes than style : horror punk, or when pornogrind becomes a style, we must condider Christmas as one 100%. Pornogrind, it's a theme for the grindcore genre more than anything. Let's add Fecal Grind if so because it is as legit… for the grindcore focusing on that subject (example : 's GUTTALAX, their album ''Shitappens''. As genuine a style as a theme no? ) So considering this thread and other styles legitimize a sub-classification on a small sound influence, Christmas to be added as a style makes more sense than 90% of what is not in the Discogs options at this time. -
SynfonicMeadow edited over 7 years ago
> Technical Death Metal,.
> Blackened Death Metal.
2 sub styles that are long accepted as independent
of the styles of Death Metal and Black Metal, but can have similarities.
> Slam poetry
the francophone spoken word / free style rap,
that separates itself from spoken word by moreso focusing on rhythm even without music.
style to be put under rap, made to be performed on album or in a café / pub to an intimate audience, even in nature.
(found mainstream success rom early 2000s in popularity)
`See : Grand Corps Malade, (Fabien Marseau) [/Magreb],
Queen Ka (Quebec/Magreb),
Abd Al Malik [ /Afrique ].
Slam poetry can be performed acapella, or with music,
backed by styles varying from: electro rap / orchestral music (like other hip hop acts employ) / or whatever types of sound used in the other popular styles of Rap / Hip Hop can be employed on slam poetry records. Live could be either acapella or with accompaniments, but freestyle rap and slam poetry listeners most often enjoy either I think,
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SynfonicMeadow edited over 7 years ago
Also to confirm ; I know we can click a genre box to make a style appear in the drop list, click the style, then uncheck the main genre that let us add the style to remove it. Example : Religious, which can be a style added to any other, makes us add ''Non-Music'' to the listing, so if we Don't remove it afterwards it makes a weird display for the genres listed on the album's page… example : "Rock, Non Music, Heavy Metal, Religious "… this is weird but could happen to most albums of the band Mortification who do Metal with religious concept albums. So I think maybe getting something else as ''genre'' umbrella for those that are not exactly 'Non-Music" to put those styles that are often mixed in other ones . Consdidering other genres like Classical, folk, pop will often use religious themes, and while not being gospel or christian rock, these may bring this problem up. If it's explained more early in the guidelines this could help leave things there or simply rename non-music to something that could be conceived less as :: not an album but a ''recording'' of something. The current wording doesn't help classification & identification with that 'Non Music' term being present when the sub-styles are checked in the droplist. -
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Christmas.
It's a style that can be mixed with any other. Jazz / Christmas. Rock / Christmas.
But it's not only a theme, we can hear it when a Christmas song is made by an artist, so I think it'S time Discogs adds it
And please Don't tell us the excuse : "It's a theme"... Other styles are more themes than style : horror punk, or when pornogrind becomes a style, we must condider Christmas as one 100%. Pornogrind, it's a theme for the grindcore genre more than anything. Let's add Fecal Grind if so because it is as legit… for the grindcore focusing on that subject (example : 's GUTTALAX, their album ''Shitappens''. As genuine a style as a theme no? ) So considering this thread and other styles legitimize a sub-classification on a small sound influence, Christmas to be added as a style makes more sense than 90% of what is not in the Discogs options at this time.
Staff have already dismissed Holiday as a tag numerous times, with this one being the most recent. If you read earlier in the thread, there are references / links to prior dismissals by staff.
I agree with the Pornogrind argument though, I am not really sure how it was added over other genres. It seems that it snuck in at the last minute. However, I ittedly do not really know much about the genre, or how much it differs from goregrind.
+1 for Technical Death Metal, as that is certainly something to be added after styles like Depressive Black Metal or Funeral Doom have been approved
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tele52 edited over 7 years ago
GENERE: Classical and/or Folk
STYLE: Zarzuela (variants: Barroque, Romantic and Genero Chico for short works in one act very popular in S.XIX and S.XX)
Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zarzuela
English website: https://www.zarzuela.net/
Spanish own style of operetta, grandfather of nowadays Musical, a mix of theatre and sung scenes.
Since c.1630 to 1960s there is more than 10000 work but unfortunally only around 4000 scores/libretto kept. https://www.zarzuela.net/ref/inzar_ad.htm
There are recorded around 250 full works since late 1940s.
Early Baroque lyricist like radiojohn]
The golden era was between 1840 to 1960s with composers like Emilio Arrieta,
and genero chico variant composers in S. XIX Ruperto Chapí.
Composers on XX like Jacinto Guerrero.
Some famous conductors on recording era: Federico Moreno Torroba.
Famous singers/actors like Ana María Iriarte.
Also in Latin America counties like Cuba, Mexico and Argentine, even Venezuela and also Philippines (known as "sarswela") was popular.
Composers like Eliseo Grenet worked on zarzuela style.
Some zarzuela work examples releases (all are masters, there are 2 or 3 masters from the same work on most cases):
Don Manolito
Note: since around 2 years ago I try to leave on Notes a quote "Zarzuela style" and add them on "Operetta style"
A brief seaching on credits and main artist section in database you can found around 2000 credits. IMHO enough to add as style ;-) -
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I think it's ok adding as style in discogs.
Spanish collectors use to find lots of zarzuela records in second-hand shops, and very low prices btw. Alfredo kraus is the King of zarzuela. -
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Zarzuela
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We know that Christmas has been refused by Discogs, hence why I explain why it should be added even as it takes time to write this, but every single store of records has a Christmas section. Enough said. You refuse it, can still add the mention in notes anyways. -
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Add genre : Northern Soul !!!
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I totally agree with Zarzuela as a new and necessary inclusion in the list of styles under the genre "Classical".
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tele52 did you forgot two of the most important authors of Zarzuelas...Calderón de la Barca and Lope de Vega? -
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SynfonicMeadow
Add genre : Northern Soul
The "Northern Soul" issue appears every mouth :) Discogs staff and lots of s think it's not a style. -
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Add genre : Northern Soul
The "Northern Soul" issue appears every month :) Discogs staff and lots of s think it's not a style. -
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Yes, +1 for Zarzuela .
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Well… consider that Northern Soul is once more '' real " as a recognized style in music history books than others already added… this should be taken into . All my entries are to discuss, and I think that by bringing arguments in favor we can discuss it. Even if it's rejected previously, musician scholars and books still name it and as stated before, other styles with far less printed references in the world are already added to the DB. I'll keep adding details when I find some more to add aside Christmas music / Northern Soul, and I understand that some genres are already mentionned, I don't care I type those recommendations with details to help the progression of their addition someday. Those who say they are not styles, they will tire, I won't (when it comes to discussing styles).
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SynfonicMeadow edited over 7 years ago
* Yé-Yé / Ye-Ye
* Twist
[ styles that would go under Rock, derived from : Pop Rock
so both could be subgenres of Pop... ]
Exemples : Yé-Yé
Les Coquettes: "Sunny"
Billy Mason: "Jeune, Fou, Pas D'Argent"
Examples : Twist
Les 4 Sans 5 / Les Balladins - "Le Separatwist"
Andre Lamarre - "Les Amants Separes"
Les Valentins - "Apprendre A Twister"
Yé-Yé = Pop Rock, often francophone, mostly from Quebec.
Like a Rock & Roll sound with basic Doo Wop back vocals, mostly "Yeah-Yeah",
thus in french Yé-Yé / Ye-Ye.
Close to 'Twist', which was the a term for a Rhythm & Blues / Pop Rock&Roll mainstay employed by many bands in Quebec during the 60s. had similar francophone Pop Rock artists, so those styles are already explained easily by checking the sub-genres of the trakcs / albums to represent the sound ot those oldies -
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Here is the official request for the previously mentioned Technical Death Metal style.
Style Name: Technical Death Metal
* Associated Styles: Death Metal
* Genre: Rock
* Description: Technical Death Metal is a musical subgenre of death metal that began and developed in the early- to mid-1990s, with particular focus on challenging, demanding instrumental skill and complex songwriting.
Distinct features of this genre include dynamic song structures, complex and atypical rhythmic structures, abundant use of diminished chords and arpeggios, frequent employment of odd time chord progressions and constant use of string skipping on the guitars. Bass lines are usually complex and the drums are extremely fast-paced with abundant use of blast-beats and other extreme drumming techniques
* Examples:
Beyond Creation
* External citations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_death_metal
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BoyFerruco about 2 hours ago
tele52, I Zarzuela and Classical genre.
+ 1 Zarzuela
+ 1 Classical genre
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SynfonicMeadow edited over 7 years ago
Lorenzo15
about pornogrind
The style can well be added, no problem with it
it's grindcore with a brutality focused on bondage/sado-maso… Slam shares similarities.
Enough bands employ the style monicker to have it legitimized, like Melodic Deathcore could be,
But it's a case like the established: Power Violence / Crust / Deathcore
they could be considered legit styles derived from the Punk/Hardcore, Metal genre.
In the same derivation of established styles, don't think those would be added
-Prog Tech Death [ Virvum / Aepoch ]
-Melodic Tech Death [ Ritual Aura / Rivers Of Nihil]
-Brutal Tech Death [ Profanity / Katalepsy ]
will the Avant-Garde style
could we say it's as useful to go with Metal as it has ever been
How massive has the genre of Metal become in the past 30 years?
If so,like the older styles like Prog Metal and Melodic Death Metal,
those styles are ever-thinner, some say "another useless branch"
I know… but there is a crossover happening everytime a new styles gets traction,
like in previous decades with Hardcore/Metal, Death Metal / Metalcore…
Deathcore + TechDeath was bound to happen.
Same with Progressive Death Metal bands and the Tech Death wave.
Virvum, The Ritual Aura, The Zenith age, Lost Soul, Inferi, Enfold Darkness, Rivers of Nihil…
tough to says where they fall into, but checking the boxes of the styles is enough,
no need to add those unless a decade in the future those styles get bigger -
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If I have missed any, please post a link to the request and I will review.
Ethno-pop - please see here. Many thanks! -
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Proposed new
Style: Marchinha Carnalavalesca
Genre: Latin
Related styles: Samba, Choro, Marches (military)
URL references:
In English, shortened https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marchinha
In Portuguese, detailed https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marchinha_de_Carnaval
In Portuguese, great text http://dicionariompb.com.br/marcha-carnavalesca/dados-artisticos
Description:
Marchinha Carnavalesca, also called "Marchinha de Carnaval" or simply "Marchinha" is one of several genres of music typical of urban Carnival in southeast region of Brazil.
Regularly played by a solo vocalist or choir accompanied by a band of brass and percussion, the lyrics / themes were mostly comic, satirical and spicy, ironizing the conservative behavior and politics of everyday life.
Initially composed to be played and sung in the carnival blocks that paraded through the streets of the cities, they were adopted as soundtracks for the carnival balls in closed halls, called "Bailes de Carnaval".
Because of the simplicity of the lyrics, almost always in one or two verses and chorus, most of the recordings were made in the form of medleys, grouping several songs into few tracks, as played on the balls.
The first Marchinha was the composition (in 1899) of Chiquinha Gonzaga entitled "O Abre Alas", made to the Cordão Carnavalesco "Rosa de Outro"
The most famous song in style is "Cidade Maravilhosa", the official anthem of Rio de Janeiro, composed in 1934 by André Filho
Main artists on the Style (performers and composers)
Lamartine Babo
Some cataloged releases on Marchinha's style
Banda Rio - Copa - Carnaval (24 Maiores Sucessos De Salão) -
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lbamaral
Style: Marchinha Carnalavalesca
Very interesting. Agree to add as new style under Latin genere. IMHO there are a lot of artists/records in addition to your examples -
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tele52
IMHO there are a lot of artists/records in addition to your examples
Certainly. In a simple search with the word "Carnaval" on titles, 414 releases are listed. At least half of them contains Marchinhas as the main style. Adding to hundreds of releases of artists listed above and other, I am certain that with little effort I could point to at least 300 releases already cataloged.
tele52
we will need a big-big work to tag records
Same happened to Choro , few months ago - with your invaluable - and in a few days we already have 237 cataloged releases. -
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lbamaral
n a few days we already have 237 cataloged releases.
Great!!
Staff did not said nothing about it but I think that if we ask for a style and it is given, we have the "responsability" to add a least 100-200 releases to that style. It happened to me when staff give us Jota, Pasodoble, Basque Music, all styles from Spain.
IMHO we should ask for styles that we are sure there are enough releases on market (300?, 500? or more?) and has be consolidated on market and/or press after several years (maybe a decade?) to avoid occasional trends.
Exception to this in my opinion are those styles that were recorded and released on shellac format, IMHO there are few on database and it could be a good idea to anticipate the basic ones. -
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has be consolidated on market and/or press after several years (maybe a decade?) to avoid occasional trends. .
Northern Soul has been around for a while but not considered as a style. Not talking about the 'Christmas music' style -
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TReimer edited over 7 years ago
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Picaba49
+1 for marchinha carnavalesca, genre Latin.
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tele52
GENERE: Classical and/or Folk
STYLE: Zarzuela
+ 1 for Zarzuela, of course. Included in Classic, not Folk. -
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M3acull
"Oratorio" (...) It might help to avoid bluntly attibutions to "Opera" which is something totally different.
Requesting Oratorio, style for classical -
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https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/forum/thread/402516#3729549
from traumasantidote
Style name: Rock Opera
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Genres: Classical, Rock, Stage & Screen
Description:
A rock opera is a work of rock music that presents a storyline told over multiple parts, songs or sections in the manner of opera. A rock opera differs from a conventional rock album, which usually includes songs that are not unified by a common theme or narrative. More recent developments include metal opera, punk rock opera, and rap opera (sometimes also called hip-hopera)...
A rock opera tells a coherent story, and may involve songs performed as if sung by separate characters in a drama, as in classical opera. A rock opera may or may not be presented in a staged performance. In recorded form it can be similar to a concept album (of which it is a subset), though the latter may simply set a mood or maintain a theme.
Examples:
Various, Andrew Lloyd Webber & Tim Rice* - Jesus Christ Superstar
Νίκος Καρβέλας, Άννα Βίσση* , Guest Star Τζων Μοδινός , Libretto Σταύρος Σιδεράς* - Δαίμονες
Andrew Lloyd Webber And Tim Rice - Evita
[added by me]
traumasantidote
Associated styles: Opera, Musical, Soundtrack
External citations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_opera
http://www.larockopera.com/what_is_rock_opera.html
http://www.last.fm/tag/rock%20opera
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/theater/musical-or-opera-the-fine-line-that-divides-them.html
[more added by me]
http://listverse.com/2007/10/25/top-10-rock-operas/
https://www.nytimes.com/1998/09/03/arts/the-pop-life-the-first-rock-opera-no-not-tommy.html
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20140523-what-happened-to-the-rock-opera
There are multiple performing groups devoted to Rock Operas:
Los Angeles Rock Opera Company: http://www.larockopera.com/index.html
Baltimore Rock Opera Society: http://baltimorerockopera.org/
Boston Rock Opera: http://www.rockopera.com/ -
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Some examples of important works fitting to the style "Oratorio"
D. Buxtehude:
- Membra Jesu nostri
J.S. Bach:
- Easter Oratorio
- Ascension Oratorio
- Christmas Oratorio
- Saint John ion
- Saint Matthews ion
- Saint Marcus ion
G.F. Händel:
- Occasional Oratorio
- Jephtha
- Messiah
- Esther
- Israel in Egypt
- Belshazzar
- Saul
- Solomon
- Alexander Balus
- Samson
- Joshua
- Judas Maccabäus
J. Haydn:
- The Creation
- The Seasons
- Ritorno di Tobia
W.A. Mozart:
- The Obligation of the First Commandment KV 35
- Betulia liberata KV 118
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Another italian baroque example of oratorio
Legrenzi*, Carissimi*, Ensemble Legrenzi, Complesso Pro Musica Firenze - Oratorios Of The Italian Baroque
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clanc
Requesting Oratorio, style for classical
If we are going to add oratorio, I think we should also add cantata, e.g.,
Joseph Haydn - Arianna A Naxos And English Songs
And also, Mass. There are a lot of these.
Haydn* - Missa Solemnis ("Creation" Mass)
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tele52
GENERE: Classical and/or Folk
STYLE: Zarzuela (variants: Barroque, Romantic and Genero Chico for short works in one act very popular in S.XIX and S.XX)
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Genre: Blues
Style: West Coast Blues -
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Diognes_The_Fox edited over 7 years ago
Fauni-Gena
Thank you. Now I have even more editing to do. Oh well...
The fun never ends!
lbamaral
Seresta
Samba-Canção
Baião
Marcha Carnavalesca
added
DonHergeFan
Lento Violento
added
Nullifidian
Nerdcore Techno
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tele52
Zarzuela
added
SynfonicMeadow
Yé-Yé
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clanc
Oratorio
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Ivo94
Ethno-pop
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Lorenzo15
Atmospheric Black Metal
magnesio22
Brutal Death Metal
SynfonicMeadow
> Technical Death Metal,.
> Blackened Death Metal.
These seem like micro-genres. How can these be differentiated?
SynfonicMeadow
Christmas.
It's a theme. I don't have a good solution for this yet, though.
ThomasP64
Rock Opera
Already exists under Rock. :)
MuddyLives
West Coast Blues
May some examples & descriptions be provided here? (See first post in thread, thanks!) -
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tele52
If finally is appointed by staff we will need a big-big work to tag records, of course, first myself ;-)
I guess on db around 600-800 releases
lbamaral
Same happened to Choro , few months ago - with your invaluable - and in a few days we already have 237 cataloged releases.
Thank you all for your hard work here! Glad to see these updates being put to good use. -
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Hi! Brutal Death Metal and Technical Death Metal are not a micro-genre, maybe Slamming Brutal Death Metal or Blackened Death Metal, but at least "Brutal" deserves his own catergory.
For example https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/es/Wormed-Krighsu/release/8253995. This nor Death Metal, they are Brutal Death Metal and Technical Death Metal too!! In this case the micro genre will be Technical Brutal Death Metal, but with the other 2 genres this will be fine.
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Diognes_The_Fox
Already exists under Rock. :)
Sorry. I would be embarrassed, but it is easy to miss among dozens and dozens of entries. -
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ThomasP64
Sorry. I would be embarrassed, but it is easy to miss among dozens and dozens of entries.
Yeah, that's part of why I moved everything to a single thread. It was too difficult to manage effectively. -
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SynfonicMeadow Technical Death Metal + Blackened Death Metal.
These seem like micro-genres. How can these be differentiated?
Atmospheric Black Metal versus Black Metal:
- Atmospheric Black Metal has much longer songs versus regular Black Metal
- Atmospheric Black Metal has an 'expansive' sound (hence the atmospheric tag) versus regular Black Metal
- Atmospheric Black Metal incorporates ambient music elements, which is not found in Black Metal
- The vocals are typically much less prominent in Atmospheric Black Metal versus regular Black Metal
- Atmospheric Black Metal songs are much slower to develop, using longer instrumental ages versus regular Black Metal, which is much more straightforward
- Atmospheric Black Metal tends to have a repetitive 'wall of sound' instrumentation, utilizing 'droning' textures of guitars and synths, which is not found in Black Metal
- Atmospheric Black Metal is less 'aggressive' than typical Black Metal
If Depressive Black Metal can be (and was) added as a style, then Atmospheric Black Metal really should be added as well. Atmospheric Black Metal bands have quite different sound than their Black Metal counterparts.
Technical Death Metal versus Death Metal:
- Tech Death is much more musically complex and 'sophisticated' versus typical Death Metal
- Instrument 'virtuosity' is something that is the basis of Tech Death versus normal Death Metal
- Unusual time signature, melodies, and rhythm usage found in Tech Death is not typical of regular Death Metal
- Tech death often has the incorporation of jazz elements
- Tech death is often / usually played faster than normal death metal
- Instrumental ages / focus are found in Tech Death, where they are not common in normal Death Metal
- Technical Death Metal incorporates progressive elements that are not found in regular Death Metal
- There are sometimes usage of synths in Tech Death, which is not found in regular Death Metal
- The outward 'brutality' of traditional death metal is not found in Tech Death
When comparing the two, it is a matter of both sounding different from one another. The 'macro' progressive elements that 'complicate' Tech Death are enough to differentiate the two. Tech Death was developed in the very early 1990s, and is a decades old genre with quite a significant difference in sound. Melodic Death metal is already a style tag due to its differences from traditional Death Metal. If you have time, please compare Obscura (3).
Regardless:
Brutal Death metal is not enough of a unique style to be added, as Death Metal or Technical Death Metal should cover them.
Blackened Death metal can be tagged Death Metal and Black Metal, and this should be enough to suffice. Most bands focus mainly on a Death Metal sound, but still utilize Black metal musical aspects. However, this style is still fairly developed and unique from both respective genres. -
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Seresta
Samba-Canção
Baião
Marcha Carnavalesca
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Thank you all for the . These new entries are welcome and will be widely used. -
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Lorenzo15
Brutal Death metal is not enough of a unique style to be added, as Death Metal or Technical Death Metal should cover them.
I can't agree sorry, Brutal Death Metal is a genre by his own, that's why is called Brutal Death Metal, it's way faster and heavier than regular Death Metal, that's why 3775 bands on Metallum are tagged like this:
https://www.metal-archives.com/search?searchString=Brutal+Death+Metal&type=band_genre
I can give you dozen of bands(way more) that play this style, and I can assure you they don't play Technical or traditional Death Metal. It is a subgenre, but come on, Porngrind gets his own genre? It's just Goregrind with porn lyrics (And I listen A LOT of Goregrind and "Porngrind").
I'm ionate about the most extreme styles of music and I really think it should be added to Discogs, as many others websites do. Just take a look on Google and see how many bands define their style as Brutal Death Metal. :)
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magnesio22
I can't agree sorry, Brutal Death Metal is a genre by his own, that's why is called Brutal Death Metal, it's way faster and heavier than regular Death Metal, that's why 3775 bands on Metallum are tagged like this:
Cheers!
Please make an official request as shown on the top of the thread. It will not be considered otherwise.
I am still a bit baffled how Pornogrind was added, but Tech Death or Atmospheric Black Metal are being challenged as micro-genres. -
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Diognes_The_Fox
tele52
Zarzuela
added
Thank you so much
BTW
SynfonicMeadow
* Yé-Yé / Ye-Ye
* Twist
Diognes_The_Fox
SynfonicMeadow
Yé-Yé
added
Yé-Yé added but not to Twist?....it was very popular rock variation and many records released tagged as twist -
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Bumping the requests again for Atmospheric Black Metal.
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So, we can add microscene styles such as Nerdcore Techno and Lento Violento to the Electronic genre, but we can't add Bass Music, one of the biggest, if not the biggest styles to emerge in the last few years simply because it might create confusion since that style is also located under Hip Hop? I'm still waiting for someone to explain that one to me considering there are also other styles located under multiple genres.
At the very least, if it's not going to be added to both, then maybe it should be moved from Hip Hop to Electronic since the hip hop version of Bass Music is also Electronic, and Miami Bass will still be located under Hip Hop.
https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/forum/thread/368197?page=2#3654419 -
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Genre Name (required):
Folk, World, & Country
Style Name (required):
Filk
Genres (required):
Folk, World, & Country (maybe Stage & Screen as well?)
Description (required):
Filk has been defined as folk music, usually with a science fiction or fantasy theme, but this definition is not exact. Filkers have been known to write filk songs about a variety of topics, including but not limited to tangentially related topics such as computers and cats. In addition, while the majority of filk songs are in the folk style, other styles such as blues, calypso, and even rock appear from time to time. Filk has been defined as what is sung or performed by the network of people who originally gathered to sing at science fiction/fantasy conventions. This definition might be summarized as, "We can argue what it is until we're red or green or blue, but when filkers get together it's the thing we do."
Yet another definition focuses on filking as a community of those who are interested in filk music and who form part of the social network self-identified with filking. As described later in this article, the origins of filk in science fiction conventions and its current organization emphasizes the social-network aspect of filking. The social aspect of filk as contrasted with the "performer vs. audience" dichotomy of much of modern music was described in a speech by ethnomusicologist Dr. Sally Childs-Helton. By any of these definitions, filk is a form of music created from within science fiction and fantasy fandom, often performed late at night at science fiction conventions, though there are now dedicated filk conventions in Canada, England, , and the USA. The boundaries of filking are vague. For example, filking overlaps with the singing and music performed by participants in the Society for Creative Anachronism or at LARPs.
In keeping with the folk-culture roots of filk, the musical styles and topics of filk music are eclectic. While a plurality of filk is rooted firmly in acoustic-instrument folk music, other pieces and artists draw inspiration from rock, a cappella vocal groups, or other styles. The hobbyist and itinerant nature of filk events (especially filk circles) gives some advantages to acoustic-vocal soloists and small groups, who need only carry a lightweight instrument or two and whose rehearsals do not need to balance scheduling logistics against regular work and other obligations. One of the few rock-style groups in filk has been Ookla the Mok, whose studio recordings use techniques common in modern rock. Some styles of filk rely heavily on sampling the original source material and integrating it into electronica and hip-hop music such as 76's Objects in Space (an homage to the popular TV show Firefly, which itself featured several filk songs) and DJ Qbert's Wave Twisters. The range of topics in filk songs stems from its cultural roots in fandom. Many songs honor specific works in science fiction, fantasy, or speculative fiction. Other songs are about science, fantasy, computers, technology in general, or values related to technological change. Yet others are about the culture of fandom, including filk itself (both as a phenomenon within fandom, and as a sub-culture). Many filk songs (such as Leslie Fish's "Carmen Miranda's Ghost Is Haunting Space Station 3") are humorous while others treat their subjects seriously (like Steve Macdonald's "Journey's Done").
However, some common themes do not fall neatly into filk's science fiction origins. Such topics include songs about cats, popular culture, and politics. These are perhaps best explained as an outgrowth of filk as a folk culture, open in some respects to expansion by individual artists. A significant number of filk songs are parodies, whether in the original sense of simply re-using a tune or in the modern sense of specifically humorous re-use. Some are parodies of songs from popular culture, others are parodies of existing filk songs. Although parody is not the primary focus of the filk music culture, the proportion of parody songs found in filk is higher than in other musical cultures.
(all the above quoted from the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filk_music)
* Examples (links to at least 3 releases):
https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/Steve-Macdonald-Journeys-Done/release/10626300
* Associated Styles (this should make links to existing styles):
https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/genre/rock
* External citations:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110416044503/http://www.filkontario.ca/hof/hoftribe.html
http://www.ovff.org/index.html
http://www.fanac.org/Fan_Histories/filkhist.html
https://www.mysanantonio.com/entertainment/music/article/Filk-Sci-fi-meets-folk-music-785338.php?showFullArticle=y
https://www.wired.com/2005/09/filk-music-for-nerd-people/ -
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rock, style djent plenty of examples to choose from https://bandcamp.com/tag/djent
seemed odd that I could add viking metal but not djent... -
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Bumping the requests again for Atmospheric Black Metal.
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Lorenzo15 edited over 7 years ago
ProduceRecords
Genre Name (required): Folk, World, & Country
Style Name (required): Filk
This seems to be about subjects rather than actual musical style. Further, the whole 'network of people / gatherings' seems like the sound would be different each time, with no clear or distinct attributes that unify it as a style. The lengthy description even states The boundaries of filking are vague, and certainly does not provide much detail beyond this. From what I read, Folk and Parody should surmise this without issue.
tuckerhusker
rock, style djent plenty of examples to choose from https://bandcamp.com/tag/djent
Please make an official request as shown on the top of the thread. It will not be considered otherwise.
In my opinion, I think Progressive Metal covers all djent artists. -
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Style Name:
Gaita
Alternative Names:
Gaita Zuliana (even though the style is also known by this name, it is better to use the denomination Gaita, since there is no other genre with this name).
Genre:
Although the Gaita was born as a folkloric expression, it’s evolution became a Latin style very influenced by Caribbean music, especially salsa and merengue. Most of the Gaita music that was recorded can be ed in the Latin genre.
Associated Styles:
Salsa, merengue.
Description:
La Gaita Zuliana is an original musical genre from the Zulia state in Venezuela, declared Heritage of Cultural and Artistic Interest of Venezuela, in some regions of Venezuela and in the communities of Venezuelans around the world it’s related to Christmas, but nowadays it’s a genre that runs throughout the year.
It’s most famous interpreters are Gran Coquivacoa, Guaco and Maracaibo 15, and the topics covered by this genre range from songs to love and religious figures to humorous themes and denunciations. The political element is also the protagonist of many issues.
It was executed initially with cuatro, furro, tambora, charrasca and maracas. Soon they added the bass, the piano, the electric guitar, the congas, the bongo, the cowbell and even brass (trumpet, trombone and saxophone) and drums.
Although the Gaita was born as a folkloric expression, it's evolution became at the beginning of the 70’s a Latin style influenced by Caribbean music, especially salsa and merengue. Most of the Gaita music that was recorded can be ed in the Latin genre.
Note: Don’t confuse with the musical instrument.
External citations:
For english: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaita_zuliana
For spanish: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaita_zuliana
Site specialized: http://www.gaitazuliana.com.ve/p/historia-de-la-gaita.html
Examples of artists and releases:
Simon Diaz Con Hugo Blanco Y Su Conjunto - Simón En Salsa... En Gaita... -
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^^ quite interesting, agree to this request -
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0bleak
So, we can add microscene styles such as Nerdcore Techno and Lento Violento to the Electronic genre, but we can't add Bass Music, one of the biggest, if not the biggest styles to emerge in the last few years simply because it might create confusion since that style is also located under Hip Hop? I'm still waiting for someone to explain that one to me considering there are also other styles located under multiple genres.
At the very least, if it's not going to be added to both, then maybe it should be moved from Hip Hop to Electronic since the hip hop version of Bass Music is also Electronic, and Miami Bass will still be located under Hip Hop.
https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/forum/thread/368197?page=2#3654419
"Lento Violento" brings up less than 11 pages on google, and "Nerdcore Techno" (not even a Wikipedia page for that micro-microscene) brings up only 44 hits (less than 5 pages), but we can't have Bass Music added to the Electronic genre for some reason? Let's get our priorities in order...
Even though Juno hasn't carried all releases ever, there a total of 3,180 on Juno Records back catalogue with that style and 9,644 on Juno . Come on! -
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Diognes_The_Fox
Continuing from: https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/forum/thread/207034
In order to more effectively manage these requests, I am moving everything to a single thread. Please make future requests for new styles in this thread.
The style request should be in the following format, and include all required fields:
* Genre Name (required). Please include the genre that the style best fits under.
* Style Name (required). The style must be internationally accepted - no regional names for styles if possible. No micro-styles. There are some styles that are too specific or denote a minor style element. Adding these styles at this point would clog up the system. These micro-styles oftem denote only a small change from similar styles, for example, a specific lyrical or musical theme, or simply add an adjective onto an existing style. Some examples of this can be found in the metal and electronic genres.
* Alternative Names
* Genres (required). Genre/s that the style falls under must be included.
* Description (required). The style request must come with a full description of the style. Look at https://reference.discogslabs.com/browse/style for examples. Include a musical description, common instruments and sounds, dates, example artists etc.
* Examples (links to at least 3 releases) (required)
* Associated Styles (this should make links to existing styles). Other styles that relate the the requested style must be listed.
* External citations - The style request must come with at least three trustworthy external citations of it's use.
* Notes
Style requests that do not include the required information or go against the above rules will not be added, and may be deleted from this thread. I reserve the final say in whether a style is added or not.
Hi
I think an important style would be
Cabaret (can't see it)
https://www.allmusic.com/subgenre/cabaret-ma0000002492 -
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Diognes_The_Fox
Continuing from: https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/forum/thread/207034
In order to more effectively manage these requests, I am moving everything to a single thread. Please make future requests for new styles in this thread.
The style request should be in the following format, and include all required fields:
* Genre Name (required). Please include the genre that the style best fits under.
* Style Name (required). The style must be internationally accepted - no regional names for styles if possible. No micro-styles. There are some styles that are too specific or denote a minor style element. Adding these styles at this point would clog up the system. These micro-styles oftem denote only a small change from similar styles, for example, a specific lyrical or musical theme, or simply add an adjective onto an existing style. Some examples of this can be found in the metal and electronic genres.
* Alternative Names
* Genres (required). Genre/s that the style falls under must be included.
* Description (required). The style request must come with a full description of the style. Look at https://reference.discogslabs.com/browse/style for examples. Include a musical description, common instruments and sounds, dates, example artists etc.
* Examples (links to at least 3 releases) (required)
* Associated Styles (this should make links to existing styles). Other styles that relate the the requested style must be listed.
* External citations - The style request must come with at least three trustworthy external citations of it's use.
* Notes
Style requests that do not include the required information or go against the above rules will not be added, and may be deleted from this thread. I reserve the final say in whether a style is added or not.
This one is an interesting read and may help for Genres AND styles
https://www.traditionalarabicmusic.com/arabic_music_overview.html -
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Diognes_The_Fox
Continuing from: https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/forum/thread/207034
In order to more effectively manage these requests, I am moving everything to a single thread. Please make future requests for new styles in this thread.
The style request should be in the following format, and include all required fields:
* Genre Name (required). Please include the genre that the style best fits under.
* Style Name (required). The style must be internationally accepted - no regional names for styles if possible. No micro-styles. There are some styles that are too specific or denote a minor style element. Adding these styles at this point would clog up the system. These micro-styles oftem denote only a small change from similar styles, for example, a specific lyrical or musical theme, or simply add an adjective onto an existing style. Some examples of this can be found in the metal and electronic genres.
* Alternative Names
* Genres (required). Genre/s that the style falls under must be included.
* Description (required). The style request must come with a full description of the style. Look at https://reference.discogslabs.com/browse/style for examples. Include a musical description, common instruments and sounds, dates, example artists etc.
* Examples (links to at least 3 releases) (required)
* Associated Styles (this should make links to existing styles). Other styles that relate the the requested style must be listed.
* External citations - The style request must come with at least three trustworthy external citations of it's use.
* Notes
Style requests that do not include the required information or go against the above rules will not be added, and may be deleted from this thread. I reserve the final say in whether a style is added or not.
Blue-eyed soul
I think this would be a genuine style
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue-eyed_soul -
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bargainvinyl1
Cabaret
Would Cabaret fit under Lounge or a Jazz style? I do not know much about these types of music, so please let me know if I am wildly off.
bargainvinyl1
Blue-eyed soul
How does this different from regular soul or rhythm and blues? Does it really sound different?
bargainvinyl1
Arab
This should be added under the Folk, World, Country genre. If there are other 'traditional' styles, like African or Chinese, Arab should be added. This is assuming that it is not Religious based. -
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Lorenzo15
bargainvinyl1Cabaret
Would Cabaret fit under Lounge or a Jazz style? I do not know much about these types of music, so please let me know if I am wildly off.
bargainvinyl1Blue-eyed soul
How does this different from regular soul or rhythm and blues? Does it really sound different?
bargainvinyl1Arab
This should be added under the Folk, World, Country genre. If there are other 'traditional' styles, like African or Chinese, Arab should be added. This is assuming that it is not Religious based.
Cabaret is singers who sang on stage and would fit under pop and jazz genres
Blue eyed soul is a specific style and was even coined in the USA
Arabic music should be added as a genre with the different styles it's history goes back centuries -
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bargainvinyl1
Blue eyed soul is a specific style
It's just soul music by white artists. There's no specific differences in style, just the colour of the artist. -
UriahCego edited over 7 years ago
seveninch
It's just soul music by white artists. There's no specific differences in style, just the colour of the artist.
Completely agree, Simply Red are perfect examples of the so called Blue-Eyed Soul.
bargainvinyl1
Cabaret is singers who sang on stage and would fit under pop and jazz genres
Oh! let's add Café Concert & Piano Bar styles too. Just kiddin'. -
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seveninch
bargainvinyl1Blue eyed soul is a specific style
It's just soul music by white artists. There's no specific differences in style, just the colour of the artist.
I get that, but this is a "Database" and this is specific USA Data, surley even a well know auction site is more specific in it's genres that "we" are currently to help searches, never mind accuracy -
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seveninch
bargainvinyl1Blue eyed soul is a specific style
It's just soul music by white artists. There's no specific differences in style, just the colour of the artist.
https://www.soul-source.co.uk/articles/soul-articles/blue-eyed-soul-colour-me-soul-r356/ -
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UriahCego
seveninchIt's just soul music by white artists. There's no specific differences in style, just the colour of the artist.
Completely agree, Michael McDonald, Paul Young & Simply Red are perfect examples of the so called Blue-Eyed Soul.
bargainvinyl1Cabaret is singers who sang on stage and would fit under pop and jazz genres
Oh! let's add Café Concert & Piano Bar styles too. Just kiddin'.
Great examples of "Blue Eyed Soul"
https://www.discogs.sitioby.com/Doug-Parkinson-The-Southern-Star-Band-Ill-Be-Around/release/3527338 -
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I'm finding "fox trot" listed on many singles from the early 50's .... this should be a style and probably in the genre of Pop .[popular] for at the time it was that. -
tele52 edited over 7 years ago
thorbart
I'm finding "fox trot" listed on many singles from the early 50's .... this should be a style and probably in the genre of Pop .[popular] for at the time it was that.
Yes, there is a gap on early S.XX styles often related to dance trends like you suggest Fox-Trot, also Walz, Ca-Can, Charleston, or later like Twist (rejected few weeks ago but added Ye-Ye).
Some s are against those dance origin to add as style. IMHO they are as important on dance as a music style. I hope someday staff will open to add more dance related styles, nowadays there is a big contradiction on Tango, Cha Cha, Lambada, they are on database and have dance origins. Seems shellac era records is not popular but is a niche business (hey discogs, shellacs sells for more than $25 ;-)
What do you think Diognes_The_Fox?. Are you agree to reject all mix music/dance styles cause they are more popular by dance or by their dance origins? What makes Tango, Cha Cha or Lambada a special case? -
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bargainvinyl1
Great examples of "Blue Eyed Soul"
You missed The Righteous Brothers - Some Blue-Eyed Soul. Blue-Eyed Soul looks like more of a term from the civil rights era to describe the physical appearance of artists who perform soul music rather than a separate style of soul music.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement
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thorbart
I'm finding "fox trot" listed on many singles from the early 50's .... this should be a style and probably in the genre of Pop .[popular] for at the time it was that.
I can't count how many times I've seen "Fox Trot" on old 78's. I think it's more of a once popular dance tempo than a style of music. -
Lorenzo15 edited over 7 years ago
seveninch
bargainvinyl1Blue eyed soul is a specific style
It's just soul music by white artists. There's no specific differences in style, just the colour of the artist.
+1. It does matter what an artist looks like, but what they sound like.
trailoff
Fox Trot - I think it's more of a once popular dance tempo than a style of music.
That is always what I thought. Dance, not music style. -
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Lorenzo15
Would Cabaret fit under Lounge or a Jazz style? I do not know much about these types of music, so please let me know if I am wildly off.bargainvinyl1
Cabaret is singers who sang on stage and would fit under pop and jazz genres
Given your explanation, there is no need for a Cabaret style tag. Stage and Screen genre.